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MGOBLUE — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:18:44 -0000

If you don't like the announcers hit MUTE, Thanks for the memories

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fergrad — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:29:48 -0000

The announcers last night made me want break things. "Assembly Hall is as quiet as a library!". Dork. I am actually physically ill today and I'm officially blaming it on those two jackasses.

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CoveyDale — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:02:51 -0000

hahaha. touche.

but honestly i do like Rafferty - much more than seven cats getting shredded in a lawn mower.

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Matt_J — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:06:15 -0000

Seven cats in a bag being run over by a lawn mower is 1,000,000,000X better than Packer.

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danprs — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:43:52 -0000

Crean will demonstrate his poor game coaching to the Indiana fans. Rah! Rah! is good for the program, coaching during the games wins games. MU fans lived with Crean's game decisions now Indiana fans will have to endure.

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CoveyDale — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:41:47 -0000

Rafferty is 1,000,000,000X better than Packer.

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Brian — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:35:48 -0000

Fun to watch Tommy Boy play cheerleader and coach...keep clapping...

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IndianaJoe — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:26:11 -0000

That's what I was feeling also, but I will pose this question. When should we expect more from this team? Because if we do, there's always going to be somebody that says this team is young and doesn't have enough talent. I think we should expect play just like the first half of the game. I know that's not going to happen but the team just raised their ceiling of potential.

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MillaRed — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:18:55 -0000

I think another thing to consider here is Coach Crean. Dumes really hasn't made any adjustments to his game since game 1 and Coach has to take some responsibility there. Coach also made two decisions down the stretch I wasn't thrilled about.

We're up 3 points with possession and freshmen all over the place. As soon as Pritchard makes that skip pass and we cross half court CALL TIMEOUT!!!! These guys need to be TOLD how to close it out.

Then with a tied game and 20 seconds on the clock with possession, he calls tiemout with 7 seconds left? That's not enough time to run a set.

Don't get me wrong. CTC is our boy I know that. But these decisons affected the outcome of the game.

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Seth — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:44:59 -0000

Williams and Jones were very good I think, though Williams disappeared in the 2nd half. He never seemed to get the ball and they went away from him in the post where he was great in the 1st half. Jones played very well, and has definitely taken over PG for now. I didn't see Pritchard play real solid at all, I thought he got worked over the entire second half. Maybe I'm wrong... Dumes is what he is. He needs a PG that won't give him the ball all the time. In the 2nd half the offense turned to throw Dumes the ball and hope he bails the team out. A great first half, but 62.5% from 3 in the first half is fools gold. Team played very well in the 1st half but thats what really makes it a bad lose

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Tyce — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:07:14 -0000

Normally, I like to give guys the benefit of the doubt. After reading all of these comments I think all points have been made on Dumes, but seriously how do you make those plays. I agree we have to have someone who will try and score points, but even on a lot of those shots that fell in the first half I still didn't like the shots. Its not a good example for anyone else to follow, even Devan himself. I think what it really boils down to is this... This team is not a very good team, but it was the best we could get, I can live with that, easily, but the one area of the game that we can compete with other teams in is smarts, its INDIANA basketball, and lack of smarts is why we lost last night. It may have looked like we were trying not to lose in the second half and using the shot clock, when in reality we just managed to not turn it over until late in the shot clock then never got a better shot than a 3 with a hand in your face. With all the missed free throws, with all the turnovers, and even the lack of offense, we had that game won in regulation. That is whats so frustrating is that we lost because of a few plays that most of the educated basketball fans on IU could have made in their sleep when they were 7. I don't mind being out abilitied by a team because its going to happen this year, but when we give up games (even ones we shouldn't win) because we don't know basketball situations at INDIANA that's when its time to be very upset with our play.

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NotTheRealSteveEyl — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:03:44 -0000

Word.

How about the one in the second half where somebody (Verdell?) drove to the bucket from the left wing, and just dissapeared off the screen. And all the while, Hamilton is going on about what a great shot it was.

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HoosierSmitty — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:53:14 -0000

Yeah, you look at the game and Dumes was great in the first half. I think we were up 6 (maybe just three) late in the game when he popped two straight threes on one possession. He was trying to give us that BOOST forward...and ice the game, but it didn't happen. He's doing what he knows...and sometimes it's brutally frustrating....

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hoosier53 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:32:55 -0000

I agree that Dumes is trying to be "the man" and I agree that what he did probably help to spur the team in confidence so that it really competed at a level we could not have planned on. I am sure that CTC will help him to work on his decision making process and that we will see different choices in the future.

But.......when you look at this team ask yourself how many of them would be getting major minutes on an established D1 team. After Pritchert who do you think would be massing the minutes they are getting now. They are not ready to play at this level and would not be expected to if the program had not been gutted. We are in effect setting them up for failure by placing them into situations where they have little hope of succeeding. It is what it is.............they play hard.......they do not give up........they seem to be proud to wear the uniform.

I would say that even with the unending belief that CTC has in this team that the potential for continuing disappointments to begin to wear them down lay in the future. His zeal and encouragement can only carry them so far. I don't want to stroke them where they don't deserve it but I do want to flavor all of my comments with the realization of who and what we are dealing with.

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Kelin Blab — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:32:45 -0000

People lay off Dumes because he is one of the few IU players that can get his own shot and consistently plays with confidence. Does he make mistakes...YES...Does he take bad shots.....YES.....BUT without Dumes last night IU loses that game in regulation. Lets not forget he is new to this level of college basketball so it is an adjustment......

I think Devan at times trys to be "the man" for this team and show some leadership but tries to do it in the wrong way, we always don't need the big shot or big play.....

Again without Dumes, we are losing to Michigan and some other teams alot worse....

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Eamonn — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:28:43 -0000

I don't want to throw Dumes under a bus, I actually like him a lot. I love his swag. But he needs to balance his talent and confidence with a little moderation. That's all.

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Kelin Blab — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:28:26 -0000

coachv-

Rafferty is one of my favorites, you gotta love the intro....."man to man".......thank GOD packer retired.

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Kelin Blab — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:24:58 -0000

According to my count Steve, IU lost by 20....given about 10 points I never saw....I am glad I have BTN but hell don't tease me by showing the court only

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Kelin Blab — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:24:32 -0000

I love Roth also, I hope he works on his ballhandling....he is a SHOOTER! I hope they start setting some screens for him....

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brosallman — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:19:14 -0000

Dumes has a lot of Bracey Wright in him, too much leeway and too little talent.

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hoosier53 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:18:25 -0000

I am not crazy about the way Dumas played. The long shots made me cringe until they went in and then they made me cheer. The erratic dibble/drive/dish/turnover menu keeps me on the edge of my seat praying that he will pass before he loses total control. The bad decision at the last made me want to cry. Had he made the shot or drawn a foul I am sure I would have cheered.

That all being said I must say you sound like a University of Kentucky fan the way you want to throw this guy under the bus. Living close to the border I hear their diatribes all the time and try to keep from falling under their influence. Keep it in perspective, keep it real, keep it clean. Yeah I did not have faith with the 20 point lead because I saw what they did with it the last time they were up..........but we were in the game................we were close to a win.......we were where we could dream of a victory. This year is a total do-over and we need to remember that as the disappointments continue to happen. They looked so much better in the last two games than they have during the pre-conference schedule that I acutally have hope that sometime this year we may actually steal one.

Be an IU fan, realistic, not a UK fan - a total ..........

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coachv — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:55:39 -0000

roth isn't wearing shoulder pads. he just doesn't have a neck. if he did, he'd be 6'6" and a 4-star recruit.
eamonn, right on about the annoying announcers (and terrible camera work), but to me bill rafferty is the most unbearable, with his screeched, rehearsed lines. a man in his 60's screeching like that! ugh. i have to keep my finger poised over the mute button at all times when forced to watch a game he's covering. every time i don't mute rafferty in time, i stab myself in the ear with a sharp pencil as punishment.
and eamonn, the word is rehearsed, not prerehearsed. that' would be redundant, let alone grammatically incorrect. like forewarn instead of warn. reaffirm instead of affirm. readjust....etc. you get the idea.

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mylifeinacube — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:27:17 -0000

ha! i remember that 'blood test' bit. horrible.

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MPmike — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:23:44 -0000

Hit freakin' free throws! Very bad free throw shooting is a sign of a very bad team.

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TomCoverdale's Eyebrows — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:04:43 -0000

I was only able to watch the first half of the game, and I found myself texting buddies like a giddy school girl. Despite the fact that these kids blew a golden opportunity, its hard to be mad or frustrated, in my opinion. Every game, every play every second is a new experience for these guys and this team, so its reality that collapses like this will happen.