Inside the Hall - Latest Comments in The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

Kelin Blab — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:43:39 -0000

If pac man jones can make it rain and start a riot in a strip club.....and have a GOOD team actually want to trade for him......KS WILL get another gig and I WILL find him and boo him in my "Crean and Crimson" shirt.

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

easy — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:06:13 -0000

By when do you mean if? =)

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Kelin Blab — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:46:56 -0000

Now when KS gets another coaching job I will be there to BOO the hell out of him.

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Agent-0 — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:10:13 -0000

and with all that being said...I sure wish he'd stay to play for Coach C. It sure would be fun to see. Have we heard anything about the possiblility of allowing AB and JE back on the team?

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

bz — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:06:40 -0000

i criticized his game over the final month of the season. it doesn't mean i don't appreciate him. it means that for as much pub as he gets, as great as his game is, as uninjured as he said (over and over) that he was, he was supposed to improve throughout the season (he didn't) and should have been at his best in march (he wasn't). if he didn't want the pressure that comes from playing in front of us "unappreciative," then he should have gone to indiana state or bowling green.

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bz — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:54:42 -0000

sorry. perennial, not perenial.

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bz — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:53:47 -0000

i really feel like if ej stayed another year, he would have (finally) received some superior college coaching and could have refined his skills turning himself into the top overall selection of the 2009 draft. he would have make much more money with going #1 and would have raised his game to a level that he would have been a starter for most nba teams (and an all-star for the pacers). if i were in his shoes, i would love to say that i would have seen reason, realized that i need more coaching and need to get better, and that the money will be better next year. but...i just don't think i can say that. the turmoil that is iu basketball right now, the rapport with yet another new coach, the lack of championship talent, and the millions that are being waved in my face right now are just too much to turn down. though i wish he would have staid, it is with selfish motives.

how will i remember him? it depends on what his nba career becomes. if he's a perenial all-star, i'll brag about all the times i watched him on tv, how he was one of the greatest players to go to iu. right now, i see him a blip on the iu screen. i will never truly appreciate what he did for iu basketball because of the horrible, tumultuous, depressing, (etc, etc, etc) year this has been. no matter what he becomes at the next level, i will always follow his name with a slow shake of the head, acknowledging what might have been.

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

MillaRed — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:17:34 -0000

I think we can torture ourselves with all of this thinking but the fact is the program was going through this turmoil regardless of what EJ did or did not do. That in itself is just plain sad. Not only is he headed for the NBA but he is bolting from Bloomington without looking back. It makes you wonder if he would rather have stayed at Illinois.

I also agree he was never coached well at IU and that certainly includes Sampson. He never made any adjustments with the wrist, the personnel, the flow of the game etc. If you truly want to put a date on when he started hurting the team it's the day he stopped playing defense. Have we forgotten what he's capable of doing on defense? When is the last time we called his name on D? There is NO reason whatsoever EJ should not have achieved a status of Big Ten DEF POY consideration but that didn't happen. He just didn't have the tenacity in the second half of the season.

I give him a lot of credit because the kid handled everything as well as a freshman could. Everyhting crumbled around him and for that I'm just embarrassed.

Thanks Coach Sampson for giving EJ an illustrious college career at Indiana! What a joke you are.

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JerryCT — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:33:48 -0000

Venomous truths , but truth none the less

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xxBHxx — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:38:07 -0000

cute.

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ALH_00 — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:16:54 -0000

I liked what Crean had to say...I'll be involved as much or as little as you'd like in making your decision re: NBA and the aftermath...but you'll always be a part of Indiana Basketball.

EJ does appear to be a great kid, and his experience with adversity this season may be of great service to our players down the road. I hope he stays close to HIS team forever and is willing to give a little back by way of mentor to future athletes who don the cream and crimson.

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

Kelin Blab — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:13:14 -0000

EJ was a better player in High School than college and in High School he made his team better.....because his High School coach is a far better coach than KS. I have watched this kid get better until he got to IU.

For a coach to struggle for 50% of the season to find a decent 4 man to play, all the while you forced DT, STemler, and Mike White down our throats....reflects KS coaching ability that many of us overlooked at times. While ignoring the lack of growth of Brandon McGee and Kyle Taber. I refuse to believe at NO POINT during the season Brandon McGee could have NOT have helped us while I watched Mike White and DT miss lay up after layup and Lance Stemler look lost at times.

WIth coaching, McGee could be a stud and I hope he stays and allow Crean to develop his game and I hope KS gets banned from coaching at the collegiate level, CYO, and Girls 6 on 6 Iowa basketball for at least 5-10 years.

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

ALH_00 — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:07:36 -0000

Thanks EJ...this was one of the most anticipated seasons of basketball for me. And, overall you didn't disappoint. I still have a cross-over, split the defenders floater and a monster one handed dunk etched in my memory (I can't remember the opponents as it was early...I think UNCW was one). Your dunk against Arkansas was also mesmerizing.

I wish you all the best and hope that you keep working hard, because your talent is sick.

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

easy — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:48:01 -0000

Yes

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

easy — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:47:25 -0000

Yeah but it's cursed...

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Disco_Briscoe — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:49:24 -0000

Eric Gordon is no better than Ben Gordon...Do you think Ben is a good pro?

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Matt_J — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:21:37 -0000

Carolina doesn't really have an issue fitting one-and-done players into their system. As much as I don't like them, you have to admit that Roy has figured the system out and goes out and recruits with the notion that his players will jump to the NBA early.

I always think back to the interviews with Davis when Jefferies was thinking of making the jump, and he kept telling the media that they had a plan in place to address that. The plan was apparently to use George Leach? Roy seems to have a plan and then he follows through on the execution, which is why we have to deal with this crap of UNC being good every year because they are a good team, rather than Duke, who is a good name.

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

BTOWN40 — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:18:34 -0000

Montgomery to Cal haha good thing we didn't wait any longer

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Matt_J — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:13:33 -0000

I didn't realize that Gordon averages 78 points a game. Apparently, he was expected to win every game he ever played.

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Matt_J — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:08:50 -0000

Bracey Wright?

No, I don't think that this was one of the biggest letdowns in Hoosiers history.

No, instead, I think that Big A had it right in that Gordon was never developed as a player. And the team didn't work with him (minus DJ trying to work a good inside out game with him and the other guys standing around on the perimeter), except for Taber, who was always out setting screens, as if he knew what a motion offense was or something or that he understood the concept of team.

I can't blame Gordon at all for the last 10 games or so. Coming down the stretch, he already knew that Sampson was gone, Dakich was doing whatever, and that there would be a lot of questions coming up in the next few months about the program. No one else on the team wanted to play like they wanted to win, so why bother? Go out, go through the motions, don't get hurt, and go collect a big paycheck.

I wish him well. Maybe he'll end up in Charlotte, and I can go watch a game of his. Of course, if Michael Jordan gets his hands on him...yech. I hate to think what will happen.

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

xxZPxx — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:42:18 -0000

I think most of EJ's troubles and downfall came because of his wrist. I have been justifying his play because of the reason all along. EJ was freaking amazing in those first 10-12 games. Unbelievable. His shooting percentage was ridiculous and he was the player we all expected him to be. But after that wrist injury is when the downfall occurred, exactly. You'll probably want to argue that those first 10-12 games weren'y against good competition but he was DOMINATING those games. Against Western Carolina he hit his first 5 treys and was averaging 28 points a game. I dont care who you are playing, those are star numbers.
Summing up my point: EJ is a baller and in 3 years he will be very productive in the NBA. His wrist was the main factor in why he struggled the second half of the season but as many people have said, he played through the pain and still was able to contribute. I'm not worried about the turnovers and the poor decision making. He is 18 years old and was asked by Kelvin to take over games and do what he wanted. Thats a tough spot to put an 18 year old. EJ's character and his ability will turn him into a star very soon, just give him time.

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

ronb — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:33:39 -0000

I find it alarming how IU,Stemler,Gordon,the media,parents,doctors,trainers,team mates,and all the coaches comment and lie about injuries to players. Stemler looses his shot and we hear he is fine then the season is over and he needs surgery. Gordon looses his shot and we hear he is fine then after the season is over he has a broken bone in his wrist that may require surgery. Why? Is it to protect the kids? Is it to protect the University? Why can't we get the truth? If you have worked with kids,watched films and coached you could see that these 2 players changed their shooting motions. Also in EJ case he could not go to his left. Other teams and coaches picked up on it and over played EJ on the right so he would be forced to go left and increase the chance for a turnover. Who and why were they not honest about these injuries? I am not saying that both players are not to blame. They continued to play and tell us they were ok while the fans and the team suffered through terrible games. I don't get why?

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

HoosierSmitty — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:21:16 -0000

Gordon will be fine in the NBA, but he'll never be a superstar. Superstars have the "it" factor and I just never saw "IT" in Eric Gordon. He finds ways to score and has an NBA body, but he's stuck between PG and SG and there's no inbetween position.

Moving on...Do you think Crean is going to buy Sampson's house, or did someone already snatch it up? It does have a replica Assembly Hall floor in it....

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

redandy75 — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:10:49 -0000

I think with good coaching Gordon will have a good chance of being successful in the NBA. He has tremendous potential that is for sure, and I see him going in the mid-late first round.

I seriously wonder if Sampson/Dakich didn't coach the kid as hard as the others because they knew Gordon would be one and done, and they knoew even with no coaching he'd put up 20 points a night and they were cool with that. He definitely had the green light from the coaching staff to chuck it up from anywhere and drive wildly in the lane. Any other player doing that would be lashed severely for it! Could you see Taber swooshing through the lane each time he touched the ball? He'd be BENCHED for even hinting at it!

Re: The Aftermath: Eric Gordon

Agent-0 — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:36:58 -0000

"from anywhere in the gym"

That's good...cuz you'll need that range from the 3rd row of the upper deck as you're watching the game from the balcony!