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Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

SocksShortsSwish — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:37:30 -0000

It's not NCAA Football 2k8. You can't go deep to Hardy every play.

Outside of a QB and a WR, what talent "was there" as you insist???

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

Willis — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:04:56 -0000

you already said he was a terrible coach in your post above.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

ricbraun — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:42:49 -0000

i'm sry, i just get upset when they run the same play over and over and over and over and over again. i swear, putting ray fisher in motion and then running a draw play worked once, that is out of the more than 100 times we ran that play. the team showed no improvement. there was talent there, but the same mistakes were made and we were 100% unprepared for the bowl game. so i will say it again. he is a very very very very bad football coach

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

Newtonian — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:30:10 -0000

Cool. All the players will take key bumps with their coach before warm-ups. What another DUMB mistake by R Greenspan? P*ss off all the old school alumni with all the money for donations....RG could mess up a cup of coffee....They should have a search committee for a new AD....

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

kylehornsbyrules — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:25:33 -0000

ha nba jam

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

kylehornsbyrules — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:20:29 -0000

How about Mark Fox? I have voiced this opinion multiple times and only now do I feel like he is coming up

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

Boyo — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:43:23 -0000

I pass: I'd much prefer Miller, Bennett or Dixon. Interestingly, both Miller and Dixon are already recruiting some of the same 2009 and 2010 prospects IU is (was?).

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

kelin — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:42:47 -0000

Has anyone ever seen skiles smile?
I know Big A , E and R won't take this personally but sometimes it is hard for me to come to this site (my only IU source) because I dread the day of this hire and I see a MASSIVE picture on the front that reads...IU hires the coach for the future (mike montgomory, scott skiles, larry brown, randy whitman) and I see 342 responses....if that day comes I may have to go and buy some Purdue gear.......

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

Mark — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:37:29 -0000

No.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

JB — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:47:18 -0000

Other than a lack of recruiting/coaching at the college level what is wrong with hiring Skiles? He'll satisfy the Knight "my way or the highway" types - he's got credibility with any Indiana high school coach (being the point guard on the last of the small school single class champions), he was a great college player and decent to above average NBA player and coach which gives him credibilty in any kid's kitchen in the country "I can prepare your son for the NBA better than any other coach who is going to have your kid for one or two seasons" in other words how tired of him as a coach is a kid going to get who will only be at IU for a year or two (you need one or two of these skill level kids every year to win a championship). As to the kids who will be at IU for four years under Skiles my guess is they would be the types who wouldn't have any problem dealing with his no nonsense attitude (he may be hard on me but he is making me a better player). Last but not least we can afford him - don't have to give him a house or pay to move him. I say keep Coach Ray Mc to help him recruit and put Skiles near the top of candidates. (Don't under estimate the affordability angle - if you think UT can't blow away any offer IU can make to somebody like Pearl you're kidding yourself).

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

tberry — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:36:18 -0000

No University recruiting experience, no name, no long term multilevel experience, no Skiles.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

SocksShortsSwish — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:35:57 -0000

Dude, you're a homophobe. Absolutely no reason to use that kind of talk.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

Ryan_Btown — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:44:22 -0000

Also want to mention that I've said several times on here there is no way he would come here...

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

Ryan_Btown — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:43:35 -0000

I honestly don't know enough about the guy to really comment. I did want to mention though that Pat Forde wrote a descent article on Pearl ( http://sports.espn.go.com/e... ). Should be worth mentioning that Forde did a nice job of highlighting the face that Illinois fans hate Pearl. One good reason for possibly hiring him.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

RobertSchell — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:42:13 -0000

ha, wow....Looks like it's either hit or miss with Skiles....

For those saying he always had the Bulls "prepared" for each game, that's definitely something he learned from his high school coach, Jack Edison....many fellow coaches across the state felt, win or lose, nobody prepared his players better than Edison...

Do I think Skiles would be a good fit at IU? Personally, I could go both ways.

I can understand the "lack of college coaching" argument, but I wouldn't completely write him off simply due to that reason.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

SocksShortsSwish — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:39:46 -0000

See, these are comments I can at least respectfully agree to disagree on.

Words like "awful" or "f%%%%%% Bill Lynch" get me fired up though.

I'll totally agree with you on one thing. There's only one Coach Hep.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

Ryan_Btown — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:36:40 -0000

I have to disagree a little here. Saying that he si a great coach for taking us to a bowl game is kind of like saying Mike Davis was a great coach for taking us to the Final Four. Everything was in place for that team to succeed.

I won't go as far to say that he's a TERRIBLE hire, but I will say that he has not gone far enough to embrace the IU and Bloomington community like Coach Hep did (I know no one is Coach Hep but meet us half way!) and I don't know that the guy has the carisma and excitement to turn around a lackluster program. I think those are two key elements necessary (see Terry Hoepner, Bruce Pearl, Mark Mangino).

I would say that we were stuck between a rock and a hard place. He did do a nice job of getting the current roster to focus through a difficult time. However, I disagree that he's going to be the guy to turn the program around.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

SocksShortsSwish — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:25:14 -0000

No way. Lynch is NOT a terrible coach.

Again, first bowl game in 14 years? That's a good thing, maybe a great thing. And if we haven't been to a bowl in 14 years, let me channel Rick Pitino and say, "Joe Paterno isn't walking through that door. Bobby Bowden isn't walking through that door."

Lynch was actually my collegiate coach for one year. The man is a great coach. You'll be pleased with him if you let him build a program and get his feet set in a Big Ten atmosphere.

Remember, like I said, this is Indiana football. Facilities suck. 1 bowl game in 14 years. Basketball school. I'd say Coach Lynch did a great job last year in his first year as HC.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

TimEOBrien — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:08:28 -0000

Lynch is a TERRIBLE Coach. Awful. I mean Brutally bad. But Greenspan didn't hire him, Hep did. And I believe Greenspan Hired Hep and that was a tremendous choice. Greenspan gets way too much flack for the Sampson BS, Sampson was President Adam Herbert's choice not greenspan's stop blaming him for that.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

TimEOBrien — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:02:44 -0000

Basically he comes off as a dick and and a hardass, and that doesnt bode well for recruiting

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

ALH_00 — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:57:22 -0000

yeah, I don't see alot of Pete Carroll type coaches having alot of success in College Hoops (maybe Roy Williams, but that's KU and UNC)...I doubt Bo Ryan or Tom Izzo would ever be considered "mr. nice guy" by their players. But, they win...every year. With or without the best talent.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

ALH_00 — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:46:55 -0000

Having seen Skiles motivate and turn around the Baby Bulls, I was initially intrigued by his name being mentioned. I'm not sure I buy the 'never coached in college' knock as an absolute bar to hiring him. But you raise a great counter-point regarding NCAA compliance that didn't even cross my mind. Obviously, that should be supremely important to the next coach because we'll only escpape with a slap on the wrist once (if at all). The next coach better follow the rules...and you've got to know them to follow them.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

kelin — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:44:22 -0000

Call Sean Miller, Tony Bennet, Anthony Grant, Keno Davis, Thad Matta, and Bryce Drew.........why is this so hard...Dammit! When they say NO go to the next name on the list.

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

kelin — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:40:17 -0000

I won't give this much thought right now, but I will say this.....YOU hire Skiles and you will see massive transfers and you will experience the worst of IU over the next 3 years. People know Skiles reputation, this is a good hire right after Knight, but not right right right after Knight......

Greeny I can't stomach this anymore, please don't do this. I know Big A , E and R, don't advocate this but............I feel like as an IU fan, we need to treat this committee and the IU administration like superdelegates and contact them to let them know....that the fanbase would not be happy with skiles and a bunch of others. We want to get this thing right this time.......FINALLY

Re: Should Indiana be interested in Scott Skiles?

Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:22:35 -0000

As a huge Bulls fan, I have a couple of thoughts on Skiles:

1) No team ever beat the Bulls due to preperation. When Skiles was coach, the Bulls always had a better gameplan then the other team did. Period. He Made hall of famer Pat Riley look like an amateur two years in a row in the playoffs, and the Bulls continualy had great inbounds plays/plays coming out of timeouts. As far as X's and O'x go, it's tough to find someone better than Skiles.

2) Skiles always had short term success in the NBA. He was a good coach for the Suns before their players got sick of him, and he was a good coach for the Bulls until they got tired of him. This wouldn't happen in college, because at most his players would only be there for four years. So the 'my way or the highway' attitude might just work in college, (it has for other coaches.)

3) The big issue would be recruiting. I have no clue how he would do. I'm not sure anyone would. So to me the only way Skiles could be appointed head coach would be if his assistant coaches were loaded with smooth talking SOB's who could help Skiles land some big name talent.