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Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

Aceman_Mujezinovic_07 — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:19:28 -0000

I totally agree. And for that matter, are we hearing anything on USC's athletic programs yet? I mean, didn't they pretty much pay Reggie Bush and O.J. Mayo to play for them but you don't see this stuff on ESPN for six months. No, I haven't even heard of it in a few weeks and you would think ESPN and the NCAA would be all over this considering Mayo just went third in tonight's draft???

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

CBinOR — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:21:33 -0000

The NCAA sucks. Yes, it does. Why did the NCAA add FRESH hell now? IU lost its season, its coach, all its coaches.we lost respect. We lost almost all our players, WE get hit with multiple charges from the NCAA, we make our case before a NCAA Tribunal . Now, while we are waiting for judgement yet another charge is made and our AD "resigns".Oh, and how could you have ANY sort of violation without a "failure to monitor?".

The NCAA and their stupid phone rules are anal. "Conference calls" are a violation? And did we ever find the phantom recruit that admits he attended IU because of a clear "Telephone" advantage? Well, the NCAA sucks and if I didn't respect the Big A and my fellow ITHers I would use more colorful language

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

iumike — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:19:45 -0000

This is only one reason why RG should not have been sent out the door with KS and that is we needed to keep him around to take some heat. If he left w/ KS the check he got was more than enough for them to split. Regardless of who done what behind the scenes he had to know that when it was all said and done he would be the one to take most of the blame if something went wrong just as if things went real good he would get most of the credit. He might want to rethink that one again if anyone is foolish enough to hire him. Now he faces the same questions that followed KS around after he left OU and we all know how that worked out for him. If he could not see that he had to stand up for what was the right thing to do regardless of the results afterward then he is definatly not the kind of AD we need or want at IU. GOOD RIDDANCE RG

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

HoosierKingdom — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:56:49 -0000

I wonder if Crean could convince one Robert Montgomery Knight to take the A.D. job, lol.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

HoosierKingdom — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:54:01 -0000

No wonder IU's athletic budget isn't in that great of shape. Sampson and his lackeys get payoffs for cheating, and now Greenspan gets a $400k check to leave. Not to mention all of the turnover in the A.D. and the university as a whole the past 5-10 years.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

msdiu81 — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:49:40 -0000

Greenspan should have been gone long ago and now we're going to pay him $400k? Ridiculous. Send him packing now. I don't want to see that idiot anywhere near IU.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

HoosierKingdom — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:46:22 -0000

Adam Herbert, Kelvin Sampson, Ray McCallum, Rick Greenspan and the rest of the goons have set IU back 3-5 years. I have to believe Herbert was the mastermind behind this mess, with Sampson breaking every rule imaginable and using up all of his carryover minutes from Sprint. With those two paired up, only the anti-christ and his false prophet can rival the mayhem and destruction caused by the Herbert-Sampson faction. McCallum orchestrated who knows how many schemes to cause many players to leave. Greenspan was and is the fall guy, although the "failure to monitor" allegations makes me raise my eyebrows once more. In just 2-3 years, IU goes from being a clean program to a cesspool of havoc, corruption and lawlessness. Good riddance. Coach Crean, you have my patience, as i know it will take years to clean this disaster up.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

oldfan — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:42:49 -0000

we came back from pretty tough sacations when football recuriting violations spilled over to all sports including b-ball in the sisties. Just hang in there Coach we will get through this because "IT'S INDIANA.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

Alex Bozich — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:37:50 -0000

Per Doug Wilson of the H-T, Greenspan will receive one year of salary as a severance package. In other words, we're giving him 400k to leave. Lovely.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

woodpecker — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:26:18 -0000

What is the standard punishment for "failure to monitor?" ... Is there a precedent?

I feel a postseason ban would be wonderfull at this point, a loss of a schollie would hurt!

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

CoveyDale — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:23:54 -0000

This just proves how incompetent the brainless idiots at the NCAA are. How could another violation come out this late in the process? The NCAA had almost four months (IU submitted their report in October, NCAA responded mid-February) to diges everything and fully investigate. They came up with the five violations that they deemed as major and nothing else. Now three months later, and after the official hearing, they lay a sixth violation on IU?

I don't blame the Athletic Department for being blindsided and extremely pissed off about this. If there was a "failure to monitor" it should've been uncovered months ago.

By the way, this news almost guarantees a postseason ban and the forfeit of multiple scholarships.

As for Greenspan - I could care less. I said all long if he ended up being a casuality in all of this, than so be it. Whether he was pressured by Herbert or the trustees, the Sampson hire is still viewed as his call...and what a monumental disaster that call turned out to be.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

jgon86 — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:20:40 -0000

Are we going to have an athletic director blog. Review possible candidates. at times I wish a regular sports fan ( who is not part of the board or affiliated with the athletic department) can be the athletic director. I just think you need comon sense, and thats why I don't like the athletic department right now.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

BrianK — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:13:00 -0000

I wouldn't take this as really fallen even further. We've fallen as far as you can get. Once we got the "Failure to Monitor" i figured Greenspan would be gone. Alot of ppl talked about it on the radio. Im glad he is gone because if an athletic director cannot be trusted to hire a coach then he shouldn't be an athletic director

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

Petetuckyburg — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:06:04 -0000

Have we now fallen so far that we cannot get up?

Tom Crean may want to run, screaming, to the airport.

Maybe we should tie him up, and throw him in a closet, for a while. I think he already deserves a raise.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

hoosier07 — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:47:07 -0000

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

MikeinNC — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:43:19 -0000

Wow, I didn't really think that would happen....thought all that was just posturing by Sampson. At least we know we can make a clean start now and focus on moving forward.

Is this why Greenspan & Co. handled the termination of Sampson with such kid gloves? Because they knew they likely shared culpability in the eyes of the NCAA?

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

Alex Bozich — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:16:04 -0000

Conspiracy theory! Indeed, I believe that was it.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

jgon86 — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:14:35 -0000

Dam idiots. Mark my words there will come a time when major violations occur to too many programs because they never felt inclined to report themselves to the NCAA. Do think greenspan did this to to take away from ITH's birthday?

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

RobertSchell — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:05:21 -0000

I was rather happy to see Greenspan resign, though I expected either that or a firing to happen sometime during these "trials"....but, from pre-season last year up until this point it feels as though our basketball program was placed at the top of Everest, and somebody, or more than "somebody", came and kicked its legs from underneath......and we have yet to hit the bottom. Ugh! When will it stop?!

"Never daunted, we cannot falter......in a battle, we're tried and true...Indiana, Indiana, we're all for you..."

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

BGleas — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:45:22 -0000

Seriously, I can't stand some of this stuff. I look at these things two ways: 1) was it a coach not doing his job or 2) Was it an institutional thing.

I really feel that IU has taken the steps to avoid any other penalty. To me this was Sampson and his staff skirting the rules. Whether it was caught soon enough or not doesn't change what Sampson was doing. To me, IU has taken the steps necessary by removing the coaching staff as well as almost every player on the roster.

Why should Crean and future players, who have nothing to do with it, be punished? I understand more sanctions when it's academic fraud or paying players. That's an institutional problem that the university should suffer consequences from.

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

Alex Bozich — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:44:19 -0000

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Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

hoosier07 — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:41:43 -0000

thank gosh he's gone. we can start completely, 100% fresh now. On the other hand, let's hope that there are no further sanctions passed down. If we lose more scholarships, Myles Brand should be ashamed to have ever called himself the president of the CreaN and Crimson. I know it's not his decision, but a post-season ban will do. When will all this end?!?!?!?!?!

Re: Rick Greenspan gone at IU; University charged with ‘failure to monitor’

Sallad — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:30:02 -0000

Nooooooooooooooooo.

Less concerned about losing Greenspan (Mainly for football reasons but I feel like a lot of us gave him a bad wrap for Sampson when a lot of it was Herbert's doing), but I do NOT want any further scholarships to be cut.

Postseason ban wouldn't be the end of the world, because I doubt we're getting there in the first place, but honestly I feel like IU's done enough to prove that we're correcting the issues we had before.