DISQUS

tacojohn · 1 year ago

Unfortunately, we won't know for some time what the sanctions will be. There's no media at the hearing, and the report will not come down for another month at least.

Luckily, the NCAA's case summary seems to side with IU version of events: rouge coaches who might not have been monitored closely, but whom would have cheated no matter what.

Alex · 1 year ago

You sir are correct on the part about the sanctions. However, I'm sure someone in that room will talk and give an account of what went down in the room. And that is what we'll all be waiting to hear...

tacojohn · 1 year ago

I think the quicker the news comes out, the worse it will be. Sampson and Senderoff have more reason, and a greater ability to spout off about the hearing. I'm working on a theory that if things go well for IU, we won't hear anything, and if things go poorly, Sampson and Senderoff will find the first microphone they can in order to start using words like "vindicated."

HM2009 · 1 year ago

I will be very disappointed if the NCAA decides to impose considerably more sanctions on the program. We basically pulled the rug out from under our own feet in February to show the NCAA that we were serious about getting to the bottom of this situation. I believe the program has turned a completely new page on its own without the NCAA's infractions. It would be a shame if they further hampered Coach Crean's starting hand.


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hoosiergal · 1 year ago

Regardless of what happens with the NCAA, I will always LOUDLY AND PROUDLY SAY I AM A HOOSIER!!!!!!!!

hoosier07 · 1 year ago

just another friday at the office where ITH remains open all day and hit refresh every half hour!! Another one here, PROUD TO BE A HOOSIER no matter what!!

Alex · 1 year ago

Now I know where all of the traffic is coming from...

JerryCT · 1 year ago

Oddly , I am pulling for Sampson to make some points in this one ................the more he can believably defend the minor nature of infractions the less IU will get punished. Of course provided he does not throw IU under the bus .

I think IU can also "net out" the problems to alot fewer ones than listed in the NCAA report. What I mean is :

- of the calls , 90% were placed by Senderoff
- 44% of the calls were associated with 2 ( or 3 ) players, Morris twins( counted as one by the NCAA), Mackey
- 64% of the calls were recorded as less than 2 minutes and labeled as "placed" vs actual contacts
- if you take out Mackey, Morris and 2 min calls you get 26 violations

Now I am not saying KS was clean or told the truth but what I AM saying is that the major violations can be presented by IU as alot fewer, more focused on KS and one coach than IU's efforts at compliance. In other words...................we are the victims here.

jgongora86 · 1 year ago

I'll say it again. If Iu receives any more punishments, the ncaa is pretty much encouraging other programs to keep cheating. We did everything we could to keep our program clean, and if we get further punishments what incentive do other programs have. none! If we get more punishments I want to sue the living hell out of myles brand, because i think he needs to grow up and let his anger towards IU go.

tacojohn · 1 year ago

Brand has nothing to do with the hearings or the case.

tberry · 1 year ago

What do you mean, “We did everything we could to keep our program clean?”

According to other reports, IU did not monitor every month’s phone reports. If they had they would have seen the problem calls immediately and ended them. IU knew Sampson had cheated and were taking a chance on him but, still, they did not monitor him consistently.

IU does have a major part of the responsibility for this continuing mess.

jgongora86 · 1 year ago

I meant we given ourselves a justified punishment, by docking sampson 1mill. Then fired sampson,took away a scholarship, and new recruiting stipulations. i don't disagre that we did something wrong, I just think that unlike other programs we steped up to the plate and punished ourselves. If the ncaa gives us further punishments I honestly don't think other Universitys don't have any incentive to fess up.

ALH_00 · 1 year ago

A buddy of mine mentioned jokingly yesterday that we should hope for a one-year post-season ban...saying 'what difference will it make'? I agree to the extent that I don't care what the sanction is, so long as it does not hamper Crean's recruiting. We can take the 1-2 scholarship sanction currently in place (I guess), and a post-season ban. But, please do not take away additional scholarships and/or place additional recruiting restrictions.

I do hope the NCAA recognizes the current state of IU basketball and judges accordingly.

Alex · 1 year ago

I agree. We'd be better off taking a post season ban than we would losing more scholarships or taking on more limitations in recruiting. Problem is, if the NCAA wants to make an example out of IU, they'll realize the loss of additional scholarships would be a bigger loss for the program at this point.

hoosier07 · 1 year ago

well put

ALH_00 · 1 year ago

I understand. I am not holding out too much hope for leniency, but damn, look at what is going on there! Like any other team that is put on probation, etc...IU Men's B-Ball has been decimated. Goal accomplished.

Message to the NCAA...leave IU alone and start issuing major rules violation allegations and investigating those schools that really get a competitive advantage by violating NCAA regulations regarding player eligibility.

(I'm not saying IU is perfect, but this whole saga is so stupid wen you look at agents paying players and their families and the efforts that some schools make to keep players academically eligible and still only graduate 40%)

RobertSchell · 1 year ago

My, my, my....what a difference a year makes, eh ladies and gents?

JerryCT · 1 year ago

I hope we argue that sInce major college sports are also big business the NCAA and TV networks would be better served by a stronger IU basketball program not a "banned" or damaged program. We have been penalized enough already.............BAN KS and ............................FREE IU

Ryan_Btown · 1 year ago

So, from what I've read, he's basically going to testify that he didn't get info from the checks and balances system in time? So basically he's going to try and get off the hook by blaming IU. At least that's how I've sort of read into it. Is that accurate?

bz · 1 year ago

i tend to think that the ncaa will be nice to us. reasons:
a) we sacrificed our coach and our season already. we may as well have given ourselves a post season ban last year because, let's face it, we didn't really show up for the first round.

b) we have restricted our head coach with the amount of contact he can have with recruits already.

c) we have a new coach who is saying (and doing) all the right things about running a clean program for the sake of the program. program comes first, wins come second.

d) we have turned over our entire roster. (we still have the two troublemakers in fink and taber, but now that their buddies are gone, the will be forced to go to class and behave).

adding penalties to this program seems like overkill to me. the mess has already been cleaned up. there is no point it making it worse then it already will be. if they are really desperate to punish someone, why don't they go down to tallahassee or socal. there's definitely more to find there.

hoosiergal · 1 year ago

Worst case scenario? Post season ban, loss of an additional scholarships and restricted recruiting? Mercy, I don't think I can take waiting 6 more weeks for the penalty.

Alex · 1 year ago

By the way, the Hoosier Scoop is out in Seattle and they're blogging quite a bit:

http://blogs.heraldtimesonline.com/iusp/

Unfortunately, the Inside the Hall travel budget isn't quite up to par with the H-T.

BrianK · 1 year ago

The thing that gets me is that USC has been caught twice with players being paid and the NCAA has essentially looked the other way. The NCAA reminds me of the Bud Selig Run MLB. Ridiculous. It just gets under my skin

Kelin Blab · 1 year ago

Anyone pissed about Daniel Moore playing only 2 minutes in the Indiana All Star Game. Geez the kid can' t catch a break...........

Atwater · 1 year ago

That is exactly why the Indiana team barely one. I'm thinking that Moore could have easily given them a 25-30 point margin of victory.

Hoosiergirl · 1 year ago

:grin:

MikeinNC · 1 year ago

I don't see the point in penalizing us further, geez, I think we demonstrated that we were honest in reporting the infractions, that we suffered severe consequences, and that we have taken significant steps to cleanse the program. It's not like we are some corrupt football factory that stonewalled and covered things up every step of the way....if the NCAA is going to hammer us further, what's the message they send to schools about the incentive for being straightforward and transparent? Heck, a program might as well stonewall if the NCAA sends the message that you are still going to get clobbered even if you cooperate extensively and work hard to make amends.......think about how we've handled this compared to other scandals in the past.....I think the one solace we can take from all this is that we responded with a level of class and integrity that we can be proud of.....small comfort, I know....

Kelin Blab · 1 year ago

question to throw out here........

what was a bigger circus?

Mike Davis ending at IU?
KS firing?
Hiring of the new coach?

My vote is the hiring of the new coach.....given the fact.....all the names I heard I didn't like and when I heard Krueger was on a plane heading here I almost broke down in tears.

The Mike Davis sick day was pretty wild too.....

KS firing was ineveitable ............

JerryCT · 1 year ago

KS firing for the following reasons:

1. the stupid , one week , self imposed deadline to resolve a complicated mess
2. inability to schedule the news conf due to #1
3. no 'a priori' negotiation w NCAA on sanctions based on the "in season" firing
4. frenzy over the interim coach and what he should do
5. players' attitudes tanking and suspensions
6. poor team play and losses