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We see how KS and the athletic dept failed to be effective and intervene with vulnerable kids to counsel them into greater success. When firing KS did anyone think of the impact on the players studies ? We will always have vulnerable kids playing on our teams so our systems and staff must be effective at this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyTgcUUvuVw
LMAO
I'm not being an apologist for the players, just saying your inference that it's easier for basketball players to get good grades than regular students is not accurate.
I'm just thinking back to myself and some of the challenges I went through. I played D2 basketball and it was tough sometimes. I lived with two kids that didn't play sports and it wasn't always easy.
I'd wake up at 7:30 and eat breakfast on my way to class (my roommates wouldn't have class until 11 or 12). After 3 straight classes I would grab lunch on the run as I headed to practice. After practice I'd get home around 4:30-5:00 and find my roommates asleep on the couch resting up for a big night of partying. Well I hadn't even done any homework/studying yet or eaten dinner and I still had to go study hall that night (which sounds like extra help from the ath. department but after a long day and knowing your friends are out partying it's tough to get anything done). I'd get home from study hall at 9:00pm, maybe watch a little TV, wishing I could meet my buddies out, but that wouldn't be smart since we had a game the next night. Then I'd usually be woken up by drunken roommates and the rest of my friends at 2am.
I don't bring this up to sound like I'm whining or complaining. I had an awesome experience playing basketball at school, and also did find time for my fair share of partying, but I struggled academically my first two years, before finally adjusting and maturing my final two years. So I try to relate with where these guys are coming from, and they're at a much higher level than I was. I didn't have to deal with media, 17,000 fans/national TV, bloggers and message boards.
I'm just trying to bring a little perspective of what athletes go through sometimes. Again, not specifically the players from last year (apparently they didn't go to class at all, which is sad given the opportunity they had).
the echo seems to be that an athlete's "college job" i.e. the sport they play, comes with academic help, people checking up on them etc....and it's hard not to be jealous...
For those of us who had to work normal jobs during school to help pay for it, there were days waking up at 5 am to stock shelves before class, then going in to the sports department to write a preview or go to a game and write the wrap afterward, maybe at a second job on off days, or traveling with the team on the road....and no one was making sure I finished my research paper or did my assigned reading.
It's not easy to be a student....athlete or not...but anyone can succeed if they put forth a little effort. Bottom line, it's apparent that these guys weren't really trying...and the "support" didn't seem to be doing it's job of monitoring and motivating these guys.
Geez.....Screw KS...
One of my points is that sometimes the academic support from the athletic office is a detriment. When I had to go to study hall it wasn't productive. I usually ended up killing the time staring at the clock because I viewed it as just another mandatory thing I had to attend. My grades actually skyrocketed once I didn't have to attend study hall anymore (at my school only the underclassmen athletes had to go).
But, like you said, for the most it seems like the guys under Sampson couldn't have cared less about school, that's on them.
I just take it a little personal and tend to relate with the athlete a little when I read people on some of these boards totally writing these players off with the "don't let the door hit you on the way out, good ridance" attitude. I don't condone skipping classes for two straight weeks or anything like that, but I think some people are so harsh toward college athletes when they don't always know the real situation.
You did not do that, but your original post just seemed like a place where I could state my case. Good discussion fergard...Sites like InsidetheHall are why it's fun to be a sports and IU fan!
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Is the NCAA still on track for a Aug 4 or 5 announcement re IU ?