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Is it scoring ability...NOPE
Is it Defense...NOPE
Is it size/strength...NOPE
Ok Ok shooting...Hell NOPE
Ballhandling...mmmm slight edge rose
So what is it...maybe I will email NBA draft net?
Perhaps they are basing their draft on the need of the team making the pick. Although it's impossible to predict how the lottery will pan out, I'm guessing that's what they're trying to do based on the current record of every team.
On another side now...Chi St. gave Miami Ohio some trouble, which is the team that beat Xavier. Chi St. also has one of the countries leading scorers also.....won't be a total cup cake team.
Gordon is an undersized shooting guard who cannot/will not/should not be converted to a point in the NBA.
Kelin, as you point out, at this point Rose may not appear to be as good of a player as Gordon to some, he projects slightly better to the NBA game. Plus, as a shooting guard, Gordon will be asked to defend players on a nightly basis that are bigger than him. Rose will be defending point guards that are the same size as he is.
Rose is similar to Mike Conley, an OK shooter but very good guard skills.... Rose is NOT a pure point guard based on NBA standers...J.Kidd and Steve Nash..they are pure point guards
Rose assist average 3.9 EJ's 2.4.....
Best wishes to Dickie V.
Conley was a top 5 pick last year, so discrediting Rose by saying he is similar to Conley doesn't work.
Kelin - you question Rose's ability to defend. I recognize you probably have watched Gordon play plenty and haven't had the opportunities to watch DRose. I think if you watch him, you'll realize he's a hell of a defender.
Gordon over Rose because he can sell tickets? I think NBA "people" recognize the financial success of the Suns and would accept drafting a pass first point guard like Rose.
How is Rose not a pure point guard based on NBA standers? What is your rationale here?
As a freshman:
Nash, 8 PPG, 2 APG, 2.5 RPG
Kidd, 13 PPG, 7.7 APG, 5 RPG
Rose 14.4 PPG, 3.9 APG, 5.3 RPG
I think at least this point in his career, Rose is right there with the pure point guards you state he is not nearly like. I'm not saying he is currently as good of a player as Nash and Rose. I am saying he is a PURE point guard, as Nash and Kidd are referred to as PURE point guards.
I'm a big IU fan and love what Gordon does on the court, but I'm also a big NBA fan and am confident that Rose is right there with Gordon as an NBA prospect.
Tom, you and others like you that want this Dick Vitel medical condition to be career ending are just sick. Why in the world would you want a man who has worked so hard at his career to loose it??? He may not be your cup of tea but he has certainly worked hard to get where he is at. He puts in more hours a week to better his career than you have ever thought of putting in. I am not a big fan of Dickie V but I sure don't want this to end his career. If you don't like the way he does his job just he does there is a great new invention that you have obviously not heard of!!!! It is called the MUTE button.
Rose is an ok shooter and for a point guard if you are an ok shooter, you are brevin knight. Nathaniel, EJ got off plenty o' shots agaisnt oden and mcroberts in h.s....I don't think the 4 NBA centers that exist would be an issue.
GOOD GOOD DEBATE THOUGH.....
Comparing Derrick Rose to Brevin Knight is a bit ridiculous. Knight is 5'10" and not nearly as athletic as Rose. I think Rose and Gordon are neck and neck in terms of their potential on the next level. My guess is they'll both be top five picks.