DISQUS

kelin · 1 year ago

Isaih.........I would rather have........
Mike Davis Back as Head coach, Kelvin Sampson as recruiting coordinator, and have Mike and Kelvin design and Offense together.........

Isaih...............

MultiSpork · 1 year ago

Isaiah as coach? That headline scared the crap out of me. I would rip up my Hoosier Nation member card if that happened. I do not need to read such nonsense this early in the morning.

kelin · 1 year ago

Ok to make myself feel better and look ahead......here is my early list of coaches I would like IU to consider.....

1. Anthony Grant-VCU: Billy Donavan guy, young and can recruit nationally. Would have been the coach at Florida if Billy D left......

2. Scott Drew- Baylor: Indiana guy, good coaching lineage, can build a program, and works hard.

3. Thad Matta-OSU: It doesn't hurt to ask and I think he would consider it...OSU is still a football school.

4. Dan Dakich-Indiana Guy-Played here, coached here, and I think he understands what Indiana basketball means. Good Indiana ties. A Knight Descendant but far enough removed from RMK to relate to today's player....

5. Chris Collins-Duke Asst.: Coach K guy , young, can recruit nationally, and has good links in the Midwest having played h.s. in Illinois.

6. Steve Alford: New Mexico: IU guy....and you know the rest......cares too much about IU to allow it to fail. The fan base stays in tack cause no matter what we love steve. Success at Iowa could transfer better at IU with better talent....

I thought about Kevin Stallings, but I can't get past he is a Purdue guy and I don't want that held over my IU head..........this may be anal but it is what it is....

JamesHardy · 1 year ago

my only concern is that Dakich's name was listed in the allegations...i'm not sure to what extent he was involved. Other than that, I'm diggin your list.

JamesHardy · 1 year ago

any love for Mark Few: Gonzaga?

CoveyDale · 1 year ago

alford wasn't qualified in 2006 and isn't qualified now. he would never win here and i think hiring him would be an absolute disaster. as for matta, i doubt he would leave what he has built already at ohio state. plus, have you seen their 2009 and 2010 recruiting classes? unbelievable.

i really like your top two choices though, especially drew. he has done a great job so far under impossible circumstances at baylor, a basketball program that was on life support just a few years ago. those duke assistants are almost impossible to pry away from coach K, but i think collins is worth a look as well.

Matt J. · 1 year ago

Kevin Stallings is also a perenniel underachiever. It's nice to beat up on Eastern Tennessee St and UNC-Wilmington in a down year, but I think we've seen what happens when you play a per-conference schedule made up of some of the finest high school teams in the land.

Nick · 1 year ago

Here's some more names:

1. Keno Davis - Drake (Big Ten Ties - obviously)

2. Rick Pitino (may wanna take another chance at a real program)

3. Tom Creen - Marquette (I still have a man crush on this guy as a coach)

4. Mike Brey - Notre Dame (seems to have a pretty steady program at a football school, huh?)

5. Randy Bennett - St. Mary's (tough conference to build a program in with Gonzaga stealing everyone but he's been successful and runs a tight ship!)

Matt J. · 1 year ago

I thought about Brey, but he turned down NC State, so I'm going to guess he's happy in Notre Dame. Granted, IU is a much, much, much better program than NC State could ever hope to be, but still, he seems pretty set.

JamesHardy · 1 year ago

For the dumbasses at NYDN...I got a few words for you...
1. CBA
2. Toronto Raptors
3. and this is probably the most obvious....Steve Francis, Stephon Marbury, and any other overpriced, underachieving NY Knick!

They should have their jounalism priviliges revoked for printing that retarded article!

Matt J. · 1 year ago

I think they just want Zeke out of New York so badly that they'll do anything to get rid of him. In a day and age where people seem to think every alumni coach will turn into Gary Williams and not Matt Doherty, they probably see the troubles at IU as a way to get Isaih out of New York.

Nick · 1 year ago

Hey, for fun, could you guys open up something where we could post our opinions on a possible future coach at IU? I still like Rick Majerus (St. Louis), Mark Few (Gonzaga), and Tony Bennett (Wash St)! That's if the sanctions don't scare off major names. If we get hit hard then nobody will want to come here! Then it's maybe Robert Montgomery Knight!!!

Jerry · 1 year ago

Kelin is usually pretty smart and I like his list of coaches plus M Few , except leaving off Tony Bennett of WSU and Jay Wright of Villanova is a huge oversight. Maybe add Seth Miller of Xavier or Gillespie of KU who has not signed his contract yet.

I hope we can find a way to clean up this mess adn keep KS but it does not feel good now.

Coaches to avoid like the plague : Isaiah, Knight, Alford, O"Brien, Davis, Treloar

kevin lemme · 1 year ago

randy wittman

kelin · 1 year ago

Didn't they inquire with Mark Few last time?
I didn't know Dak was mentioned in the allegations.....

Matt J. · 1 year ago

Did they? Or did they just use this search firm which produced Sampson's name and Greenspan decided that was it? I remember Few's name floating around, but at the time didn't he still have Morrison and was thinking of a run to the Final Four?

Jerry · 1 year ago

Sorry, I forgot to add Quinn Snyder to my DONOT HIRE list

kevin lemme · 1 year ago

mike woodson

JamesHardy · 1 year ago

Quinn Snyder's NBDL team is kickin ass right now...just an FYI...maybe that's where the new york daily news should send Isiah...to the D-League!

kelin · 1 year ago

I agree Nick I would like to think about something like the next coach.......

Would we want Gillespie? I don't want a Larry Brown type of thing.....good coach though...

I don't know why those duke guys just stay on the sidelines so long...amaker got away.

My question to everyone is....DO we want a fairly young guy who will be here for a long time or take a season proven coach for 5-10 years......I say go young or fairly young.....

Matt J. · 1 year ago

Johnny Dawkins is the heir-apparent to K, so that's why he's around. I thought Collins was a potential for Illinois State after last season. I might be wrong. I think he's just waiting for the exact right job to come along. IU might be it.

But, on the other hand, when you're suckling at the golden teat of prosperity that is Duke basketball, do you really want to get away? You know K has those guy's backs when it comes to money and deals and everything, so why leave a good thing?

Nick · 1 year ago

I thought of a couple more possibilities. How about Todd Licklighter (i didn't feel like looking up the spelling) from Iowa. I know he's in the Big 10 but it's definitely a step up and he's been in the state. And another guy I think is always looking for that next exciting move is Bruce Pearl at Tennessee. Tennessee is a football school and always will be and he knows that. He may consider a move to a basketball school and somehow I think he would like the challenge of a program in turmoil. He seems like an ego guy but a good coach and recruiter!!!

Jerry · 1 year ago

Here is my own view on the University's process:

1. Assess whether the violations are BIG or LITTLE or a media frenzy
2. Assess whether KS lied or MISREMEMBERED as R Clemons says
3. Assess if IU is willing to REHAB KS in the press and with fans in light of 1 & 2

If they are unwilling for any reason or no plausible basis to rehab his image then he should resign vs fired immediately w Dakich taking over ( remember Fisher and Frieder fiasco ).

Jerry · 1 year ago

I like the idea of a successful young head coach perhaps with knowledge of big time conf battles and the natonal stage. Thus I argue for Tony Bennett ( plus his dad ) or Jay Wright as havign the best proven backgroundand perhaps availability for the job , depsite the success of Grant & Drew.

HoosierSmitty · 1 year ago

Who is going to want this job? That unfortunately might narrow the list down.

Again, I think this leaves us with 1.) an up and coming young coach who wants the challenge of restoring our program 2.) a solid, qualified Indiana University guy who respects our tradition

From the above list of mentioned names that eliminates in my mind
Mark Few (he didn't want it last time, why now?)
Rick Majerus (Ball State doesn't equal Indiana connection)

My top "young" list would include Grant and Matta at the top. (Matta isn't exactly young, but he's not old by any means)

My Indiana top two would be
1.) Whittman
2.) Dakich

NO ALFORD. HE WILL NOT SUCCEED AT IU, EVEN WITH BETTER TALENT

Slap the interim tag on Dan Dakich and Ray McCallum as co-head coaches for the remainder of the season, like they did with Trelor and Davis...

Sorry it's rambling, but I'm doing it in a hurry.

Anyway.
1.) Anthony Grant
2.) Thad Matta
3.) Randy Whittman
4.) Dan Dakich

Matt J. · 1 year ago

Do we REALLY want to watch the slow, painful, grind-it-out style of play that Tony Bennett coaches? It's not like Washington St. has been tearing it up in the PAC-10 this year. Plus, with the good group of coaches currently prowling the sidelines in the BIG-10 + 1, in a few years the BIG 10 + 1 could be just as good as the PAC-10 is now. I'll pass on Bennett.

I also think that IU needs to distance itself from the Knight coaching tree. Get someone younger but promising, and not connected to Bob Knight or IU. It might make Kitchel and Benson complain some more, but in the long run it will benefit the program. Sean Miller at Xavier seems like a good pick.

As for Majerus, doesn't his mom still live in Indiana? Isn't he from the state? At the same time, do you really want a guy who coached a team to a whopping 20 points in a game?

JamesHardy · 1 year ago

actually, i believe that Rick's mom is in southern Wisconsin. I'm pretty sure that's what I read in SI. He wanted to be within a 5 hour drive of where she lives...and St. Louis was on the outer edge of that.

Matt J. · 1 year ago

Okay then. I thought when IU was last searching for a coach, I had read something about Majerus' mom being in Indiana. Of course, that was two years ago, and I hear rumors that people tend to move from one place to another from time to time.

Thanks for the follow up for me.

DavidC · 1 year ago

I'm going to have nightmares after reading that NY Daily News headline - thanks!

kelin · 1 year ago

My bad, I keep getting Tony Bennet confused with Dick Bennet....good choice for the list......I would also like someone with basketball knowledge to be in on the decision and ask questions about what kind of freakin' offense will you run....stand around or will people actually move?

Jerry · 1 year ago

Snowbound in the Adirondacks with no TV recption due to snow , twisted copper for internet and nothing to do but fantasize about our next coach, .......................closest bar is miles away.

Tony Bennett, was a lights out shooter and great on ball defender in the Pac10 before getting his head coaching job very very young. I fantasize that he can develop Bassett, Crawford and even Gordon( since he could probably play him even up right now ). Maybe a reason for EJ to stay................closest bar is miles away so I got to keep dreamin

Joshua B · 1 year ago

IU was rejected by Mark Few during the last IU coaching search. From an SI.com article earlier this season:

"The day after Gonzaga lost to UCLA in the '06 NCAA tourney, Few was essentially offered the Indiana job. You would think that if there was ever an opportunity he'd leave Gonzaga for, it would be Indiana, what with its storied tradition, powerful brand and salary approaching $2 million a year. But the courtship never went beyond that phone call, partly because Few was still grieving over the loss to UCLA. "

Doug R · 1 year ago

If you remember that was the Adam Morrison year, when they were very good. Recenetly they have been down a little bit, and I wonder if he wouldn't think a little bit harder on it this time around. It seems as though there are a lot of good young coaches out there, which would be a good fit for IU. I think that is the best direction to go.

Ryan_Btown · 1 year ago

Young or old? I saw we go young. The only way you go old is to have RMK come back here, restore order for 1 or 2 years, and then get a young guy. But I personally think that is stupid and ridiculous that professional journalists even mention it in an article. You would think after writing about a guy for 30 years they would realize the amount of pride the man has.

I like the young guys. I think Steve Alford was and is a terrible choice. I think Rick Majerus (one cheeseburger away from a heart attack) was and is a terrible choice. I like the Duke assistants, I like Thad Matta (I don't think that's a ridiculous assumption to think he might ocnsider it), and I will also throw out Southern Illinois' coach, Xavier's coach (contract is pretty thick for him though), and the Baylor guys is a stud too.

shpiders · 1 year ago

you beat me to mentioning Lowery (Southern Ill.) by a couple minutes. When I started typing you hadn't posted yet.

Ryan_Btown · 1 year ago

I like the guy, but I also thought about what you said. Coached under that prick weber. A good friend of mine played for So. Illinois when they first went to the Sweet 16 (road the bench for them) and is good friends with Weber. You can't say anything bad about him in front of that guy. But moral of the story, he says this Lowery kid is a great guy too. Don't know though.

shpiders · 1 year ago

Sampson has to go ... I was fairly happy when they hired him, but after these scandals ... if he lied even 1 time he has to get booted.

As to new coaches, I could get behind the following:
Anthony Grant (VCU)
Scott Drew (Baylor) - as long as he brings Homer - I followed Valpo a little when Homer was the coach - they'll do good things.
Thad Matta (Ohio State) - although, I doubt he'd come and I doubt OSU would let him come without a big fight.

What about Chris Lowery? Southern Illinois. He's from Indiana (the only problem is he used to work under Bruce Weber).

I know Gillespie hasn't officially signed anything - but I'm not so sure about him.

The other person I haven't heard much about but who might be interesting is Keith Smart. I think he is an assistant at Golden State these days ...

I'm not sure about Few or Majerus

I know for sure I wouldn't want:
Isaiah Thomas - he was awesome @ IU and Detroit, but he is a disaster as a coach/front office person.
Steve Alford - again, awesome as a player, haven't been impressed as a coach.
Quinn - too much baggage.
Dakkich - if he has anything (and I mean anything) negative to do with the allegations, no way should he be hired.

Jerry · 1 year ago

Did not Matta already coach a year when he could not go to the NCAA due to sanctions ( OSU vs O'Brien ) ? He is not dumb enough to do that again I don't even consider him a possibility

Ryan_Btown · 1 year ago

Yeah, he missed a season I think. I can't imagine it either but for some reason I feel like he has struggled there this season. Just can't get over that great recruiting class they had last year and I think he's finally seeing how hard it is to compete with football at OSU.

Matt J. · 1 year ago

Considering what he lost, though, he's done a good job. Still, you can't be told "no" until you ask the question in the first place.

Ryan_Btown · 1 year ago

Agreed. I think I'd place him somewhere near the top of the list. Never hurts to ask...and wave a large amount of money in front of his face!

Brett · 1 year ago

Dude have you seen Ohio State's talent? They have absoulutely no outside scoring threat and really not a great scoring threat period. They lost 4 really good players to the NBA last season (Odin, Connely, Cook, and that really good shooting guard.. his name is slipping beyond me right now and is pissing me off). They are 8-4 in the Big Ten and 17-8 overall. After losing that much talent I would say thats pretty damn good.

I say we go after Matta. He is an incredible recruiter and a great coach. I could easily root for him.

Jerry · 1 year ago

I cannot remember if a B-10 coach has ever left one team for another B-10 school. Anyone know ? I donot see Matta or IU as so unique we would ever be able to pull it off

TomCoverdale's Eyebrows · 1 year ago

Some interesting names are being tossed around for this job. Two thoughts:

1) Alford wouldn’t cut it. If you can’t handle the Iowa job, there is no way you can handle this one. Not even worth a look
2) I haven’t seen or read enough on Kevin Stallings to say whether I think he is a worth talking to. However, I would never ever want to rule out a candidate because of an affiliation to Purdue (he was a grad student there). That’s asinine.

Matt J. · 1 year ago

Vanderbilt's only impressive win was at home over Kentucky. Everything else has been against fairly subpar competition.

Victories against Wake Forest and Georgia Tech would be impressive if they weren't at home and if they weren't against a team that just lost a ton of talent to the NBA (Ga. Tech) and one that has been rebuilding for a couple of years and lost their coach tragically (Wake).

I'll pass on Stallings, too. I don't care that he's from Purdue. His teams chronically underachieve. The fact that they've gone on yet another nosedive after feasting on a subprime pre-conference schedule is no surprise.

Jerry · 1 year ago

What about a young head coach that won 7 coach of the year awards in one season, 2 more than John Wooden in his best year ? What about the Naismith national COY in 2007 ? What if the coach is familiar w the B-10 ? What if he is a 20+ game winner in every yr? What if the coach has beaten USC 2 times this yr, Gonzaga, Baylor etc.

Why NOT Tony Bennett OR do we want to whine about hard workiing offenses because we love ours so much

Matt J. · 1 year ago

Beating USC isn't that impressive. Unless he's beaten USC twice this year in football.

gonzaga is having a down year. Baylor is good, but not great.

20 wins a year is impressive, unless they come against Eastern Washington, Montana and the Citadel. The only impressive win he's had this year was at Arizona St. And that was by one point. And that's not even all that impressive.

HoosierSmitty · 1 year ago

First off...it's sad that we're forced to discuss this during the season...but screw it...it's going to come, so let's deal with it now.

After doing some research during my extended lunch break I'm going to have to say either Thad Matta or Anthony Grant should be our top two candidates.

I'm torn between which one I'd rather have, but I frankly doubt we'd be able to pull Matta away from OSU. I'd offer it to him first, see what happens, then aggressively pursue Grant from VCU. Matta's Indiana ties are the big reason I think I'd pick him over Grant. Both can recruit well and know how to coach based on based records and performance.

Grant helped bring the guys in who won titles at Florida, so I think he could do the same at Indiana. I also think he'd be willing and able to make the jump to a big time program and conference. He might not have Indiana ties, but that should be a secondary concern...

Brett · 1 year ago

Lets be honest with ourselves here gentlemen.. IU paid $60,000 to a research firm and after searching all coaching candidates in the U.S. decided on Kelvin Cheaterpants. I hope they don't throw another 60 grand away.. Kelvin was the best we could do? Come on people.. IU is still a top 10 job in college basketball. No reason we shoudn't be able to get a top 10 coach. Go after the greats, who cares.. fuggit ask Coach K!!!

Nick · 1 year ago

I agree with you here! Indiana ties should be down on the list of concerns. What's important is getting a coach who is a proven recruiter (who does in honest) and willing to take a chance on a program in turmoil. Let's face it, even in turmoil Indiana is a top tier program. Let's remember how well Rick Patino did at Kentucky after he took over for Sutton who was I believe being investigated. There are just some programs that a coach will take a chance on even if the school is on probation or worse and Indiana is one of them. This isn't going to be an SMU case (football) where the NCAA destroys the program. By those standards, this should be a slap on the wrist and most coaches won't be that scared!!!

michael · 1 year ago

here's the deal- fire AD & cheating coach - hire Coach Knight as AD and Mentor to new
head coach Dan D> Coach sits the bench next to Dan and molds him into minime
rename Assembly Hall " Knight Court" create student section called "The Jury"
Reclaim our prominince in College Basketball

Brett · 1 year ago

Thats pretty awesome. Sounds like something my dad would say.. wait a second.

Matt J. · 1 year ago

Can Harry Anderson help christen it?

michael · 1 year ago

why not - he could bring some of those hot chicks he used to have on the show

mikcad · 1 year ago

anybody worried about losing Ebanks to Rutgers or Miami, if Sampson is fired?

Nick · 1 year ago

Bound to happen now man! You see this thing all the time. The new coach after something like this has to recruit some JUCO players the first year to cover the holes left by transfers and defected recruits, but that's the price we're just going to have to pay to get rid of the cheater. Maybe if IU makes a splash quickly with a big name coach that would change!