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Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

MMA Narcisist URDirt — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:24:30 -0000

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Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Diesel — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:36:12 -0000

Although he did have a winning record, look at the group of players he had. After three consecutive winning seasons and first round playoff exits, he was fired for "underperformance". He reportedly was a player's coach, but so much so the Pacers went completely opposite to Rick Carlisle. As far as the reception, I believe he would receive a warm one from the IU faithful.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Donkdonk — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:41:49 -0000

Denim shirt? Far be it for me to try to deflect a little KS scorn, but he was a successful coach - he parlayed endless small infractions into a history of misadventure. He obviously thought he wouldn't be caught, and then he thought he wouldn't be caught again.

Look at the Zeke list - I'd say the last two listings put him on a scale beyond KS.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

BFowler — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:23:38 -0000

That is a very interesting question you pose. While The Denim Shirt was at Oklahoma, I was amazed with the job he did there. He showed his ability to coach in his first year here, when that group played as hard as any since the Knight era and gave runner-up UCLA a solid run for its money in the 2nd round. As much as I despise his blatant disregard for the rules, he obviously has some value as a coach, therefore the NBA job. I agree with your assessment as much as it pains me.

As far as Zeke, I have never seen his ability to coach. I loved him as a player, but as a coach, he has yet to prove it. There had been rumors that even while with the Pacers (his only quasi-successful stop), it was really Larry Bird running things behind the scenes.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

CraiginOR — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:07:33 -0000

Sun Belt conference fan base can't match Indiana high school, the conference is the place community college and junior college kids go to live the dream. As Alex said "The Indiana staff had expressed interest in Ferguson after he opened up his recruitment, but didn’t offer a scholarship." but this is the coincidence of the week ...."Always remember there is a huge difference between evaluating a prospect and actually offering one." Coach Crean on Twitter

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

indiananorthshore — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:20:29 -0000

I think for Indiana character should and does count. However there are programs such as Memphis, UNLV,K-State where character doesn't count. I guarantee you Zeke will have his team in the tourney every year. If I were a one and done who can prepare me better then Isiah for the NBA. Not just from a playing stand point, he was also a 20 year old playing with men when he entered the league.
As far as his reception coming back to Bloomington, Big Ten, National titles, got his degree, his very vocal and proud of his IU roots. Friend of The General, and has offered assistance to Tom Crean. I suspect he would get a very warm welcome.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Diesel — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:47:51 -0000

At the risk of opening a new thread, did you think Kelvin Sampson was a good coach? I actually did, and I think his employment in the NBA speaks to that, but ultimately it was his character that tarnished our beloved program and kept away multiple recruits. So I do think character matters and if I were a 5-star recruit, character would be important to me.

Would Derrick Rose have followed Zeke? Perhaps, he did have someone take his test for him, so character isn't big quality trait for him. Would he have chosen FIU over Memphis? I don't think so, particularly if you add in the World Wide Wes factor.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

BGleas — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:33:34 -0000

I actually think his style of play is perfect for IU and Crean's system, but agree that he isn't a good fit for the program due to everything else that seems to come along with him. I guess it really only would have been a negative for IU if he ended up at Kentucky, Louisville or another Big Ten team.

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Kelin Blab — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:59:31 -0000

I wonder what type of reception Isiah would get if he walked into assembly hall? I know we like the guy, but it seems it has been tarnished some. I wonder if that Hoosier great that plays for the hawks would get a good reception...J-Smoove himself? I can't believe Mike Davis actually said he would always be a hoosier.....

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

indiananorthshore — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:59:13 -0000

Diesel, I agree with his bad judge of talent, and his lack of business savoy. His record was over 500 with the Pacers. He does know how to play the game at all levels He was a very vocal leader on a NBA championship team. He demanded from his teammates what he demanded from himself His daughter's problems, sexual harassment charges have nothing to do with his basketball acumen. If we were worried about character of everyone associated with basketball, there would not be a lot of players or coaches around. Zeke will be coaching 18 year old kids who will have to listen, not a group of players who make more than their coach and have guarantee contracts .I would guess Ferguson is no different than Gordon, Michael Beasly,Derrick Rose, Kevin Love, OJ Moye and the rest of the one and done group. These kids aren't going to college to get a degree, they are there because the NBA wont take them until they are old enough. Miami, South Beach and Isiah a pretty good place to prepare for a year or two. Do you think Derrick Rose would have followed Zeke?

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

q95 — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:43:14 -0000

what's a florida international??

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Diesel — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:13:37 -0000

His resume as a coach and executive also include:
-Ran the CBA into the ground, then rejecting the NBA's offer (more than twice what he paid for it) to turn it into an NBA minor league
-Fired by Larry Bird after 3 consecutive first round playoff departures with the Pacers
-Destoryed the Knicks organization securing the highest team salary in the league and nearly the worst record, and trading away precious lottery picks for the likes of Eddy Curry and making other trades for guys like Stephon Marbury and Zach Randolph
-Helped MSG gain one of the largest sexual harassment lawsuits to the tune of 11 million dollars
-Tried to cover up a drug overdose by saying it was his daughter

It's almost like he's got a little bit of the demin shirt in him. No one can deny his success as a player, but as a guy running an organization and coaching it's an awfully scary picture.

Also, there is a reason IU did not offer a 5 star recruit in their own backyard a scholarship! I believe most recruits will at least take a wait and see approach to FIU if they have anyone in their corner giving them good advice.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

indiananorthshore — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:52:25 -0000

hmmmm, Isiah won a high school championship, college championship,NBA championship, perhaps the best little man to play in the NBA, part owner of an NBA team in Toronto, prior to the Knicks, a successful NBA coach, a top 50 all time player. I think we all can agree he probably has a clue as to what it takes to play in the NBA. Now take along with the University being located in Miami, it's hard to argue against the decision. My guess this will be one of many 5 star athletes he will recruit.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

tberry — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:48:15 -0000

Thomas has done nothing since he was a player except fail. Ferguson will fail too. Ferguson wants to be a "Big Fish in a Little Pond". What he will get is stuck in a mud bog when Thomas fails at FIU and one reason he will fail is because of players with Ferguson's attitude and history.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Diesel — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 08:09:57 -0000

Really, there is no great loss to us here. D Ferg was not a good fit for our program or our style of play. If I had his talent, I'm not sure I'd take a chance with a guy as troubled as Zeke or believing the Sun Belt was going to prove that I'm ready for the next level. My gut feeling is D Ferg will continue to make poor decisions on and off the floor and slowly fall off the basketball landscape.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Seth — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:41:43 -0000

It just goes to show players want someone they think will lead them to the NBA. If it works out Isiah could turn FIU into a poor man's Memphis. FIU has something a lot of other schools don't, weather and South Beach.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

BFowler — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:54:34 -0000

1) What the????? Say it out loud...."I'm a Five-star prospect and I'm going to FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL." Something seems way out of line here.

2) Makes sense on all other fronts. The drama has led us to this point. Isiah Thomas has made his first big sell. This has been like watching a train wreck in slow motion, and it is not yet over.

3) Good luck, Mr. Ferguson, I hope it gives you everything you hoped for, unless of course it includes a victory over Indiana.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Bryan — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:27:35 -0000

Well, everywhere Zeke has gone since he quit playing, he's always been able to make a big splash out of the gate. Unfortunately, he's never been able to follow up on that initial promise, with stranger circumstances each time, as though he could never figure out how to take the next step in any venture he was in.

For his sake, hopefully FIU gives him time to figure things out, because I can't imagine them becoming the go to place for high profile recruits. Most 5-star kids aren't looking at the Sun Belt Conference, so this feels more like an aberration than a taste of things to come.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Hardwood83 — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:00:02 -0000

Certainly a surprise, but I'm fine with this. I don't have anything against Ferguson- but don't think he had any intention of going to IU nor would be a good fit there. He's apparently high-maintenance and should get along well with Isiah, who can give him prima donna lessons.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Kelin Blab — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:26:05 -0000

I think Isaih is on the up and up and his advantage is his college and nba connections, he is at a school without any expecatations and he can tell a kid he knows what it takes to get them to the NBA and they can one and done all they want as it benefits all parties, Isaih, the kid, and the school.....easy sell if you ask me.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

plane1972 — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:12:26 -0000

Most people who played for Isiah sing his praises. He's obviously a player's coach, and I don't doubt he did this completely on the up and up. He saw an opening and walked right through it.

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Julian — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:59:50 -0000

Not accusing anybody about cheating but this random commitment makes me wonder because how could Isiah pull this off haha, but if he got him cleanly then congrats to Mr. Thomas and hope he can have success while playing clean

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

roninjeffersonville — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:41:33 -0000

Thank God we can put this drama to bed. No wait, he decommited once. Could he do it again. Stay turn

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Kelin Blab — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:05:52 -0000

This is the first time I have been left speechless....
No further comment !!!!

Re: Dominique Ferguson headed to Florida International

Sallad — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:51:27 -0000

That makes sense. It still feels strange, though. Not in a shady way, in a "Why sacrifice the chance at a national championship just to be the centerpiece for a team that will get little national exposure?"-way. Oh well, I'm not inside his mind, or the mind of any of these other recruits. It's got to be a bizarre process to be a part of.

But once again, that assumes that any school with a shot at a championship in his one year had already given him an offer.