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1) I would have fired RMK for losing but not for choking Neil Reed etc....really I would have
2) I would NOT name anything after him except maybe an award , not sure what it would be however, maybe for "dumb sports writer of the year"
3) He might show up just for Steve Downing but really who cares anymore
4) IU is bigger than Myles Brand or RMK
5) My focus is this years team, this years coach and this year's games
6) We have spent too much time on stuff that is nice but really doesn't count
Please let the season begin.........................
My issue is with the way he's handling it in the public. I think it's a disgrace to himself and his former players. He would have destroyed his players for acting like this. Having Vitale announce he's not coming? What a joke. Refusing to discuss IU's current team on the air is ridiculous too.
If he had any interest at all in ever coming back to IU, he would have simply issued a release saying he appreciates the honor, and admires Glass and Crean, but will have to decline the invitation to attend because he still needs time.
So many ways he could have handled this differently. Not even willing to discuss IU on the air ? Paaaleeeze......... give me a break. Agreed, if one of his players would have acted like this he would have been all over them............and publicly at that. Time to move on and let it go. It is solely up to Bob now if anything else is done. Also agree that this does not reflect well on his former players. It was Bob who liked to tell players when he was recruiting them " give me 4 years and I'll give you the rest of my life". Note to Bob: Past time to give.
"I won't be the lonely one
Sittin on my own and sad
Forget your Dad he's gone
He's gone, he's gone,
he's gone, he's gone ohhhh"
It could've been glorious, Robert. But.........whatever. One a side note, I just renamed my mute button "The Vitale." Maybe it'll catch on. "Oh God, not the Saved by Zero commercial again. Honey, can you Vitale it please?"
Put up his portrait in the HOF and the Hall, and make that the final sentence in that chapter of Indiana Basketball History.
Because that's what I believe, I can tell you this; I don't care if Bob Knight steps foot on campus or not.
/chest pass
;p
/snores
Yeah, the Davis hiring and the whole situation was ugly - no one denies that, and it is what it is... but it's history. The Sampson debacle was also ugly, unfortunate, but that too is now history. Tom Crean is here now, and I firmly believe he is doing all that he can to rebuild the basketball program as well as the basketball family and tradition. I suspect that Fred Glass is also a player in restoring the family and tradition. Myles Brand and Chris Simpson are dead. Clarence Donninger and Rick Greenspan are gone...
I understand that Knight is stubborn. I get it that he is principled. There's no question that he was hurt. But it's time to move on. Maybe Karen Knight needs to remind him again that the horse is dead. To paraphrase Coach Knight himself, if accolades are inevitable, sit back and enjoy.
Since both Glass and Crean (and apparently the majority of the former players, managers and those involved in the program) are working to restore Indiana's tradition, why won't Knight make nice? Perhaps it's more of the arrogance that got him fired...
The future of Indiana basketball is bright. We have a coach that "gets it". He understands tradition and honor and respect for the program and process. Crean's future success will definitely be built on the foundation of Everett Dean, Branch McCracken and Robert Montgomery Knight. But it has come to the point where Knight needs to decide to "bury the hatchet" and accept the accolades that he is due -- that the University is trying to bestow upon him.
IMHO, Indiana University has extended the olive branch. If Knight refuses to accept it, that speaks more of him and his character than anything else.
It's time to shake the dust off of our feet and move on.
Spot on post.
You just made my day with that line. While my original "newsletter" reference (Simpsons) may have been lost on you, the quality of your original comment was not. I, too, am tired of the Knight drama. The man must live in a sad little vacuum, and the good stuff was all sucked out years ago.
Seems to me that Knight has told us, the fans, and those who have and do support him that is pettishness is more important that anything.
Bob, may be it is time for you to go home to Orville and start working for Schmuckers cause you are a smuck!!!
Bob, most of us would love to have you back and honor you but the ball is in your court and you appear to have taken the place and kicked it out of the stadium.
I wish he was coming back to the Hall but Indiana has done what they could to make things up to him. I still have a lot of admiration and respect for the man but it is time to move on. If, and when, he is ready to accept the invitation, IU will be ready.
He's not coming to the ceremony. Ok. He continues to handle it poorly. Ok. "Do as I say, not as I do" while mentoring young men. Ok.
Clearly, he deserves a plaque in the IU HOF. But, I no longer consider it viable to name the court after him until MAYBE after he passes. "Coach Knight's Court @ Assembly Hall" is dead to me.
A situation that everyone handled poorly 10yrs ago continues to linger. Crean, the court is all yours...... and maybe in 20yrs so will the naming rights.
This whole HOF thing is a great gesture to a great coach, however as Dicky V and Coach K wants IU to rename the university after RMK has gone to far. You know if he doesn't come to the HOF induction it shows that RMK who helps young men become mature and better men, has some maturing to do himself. If he wants to hang onto a grudge for 100 years let him do it, I don't care. Not sure if Bob knows this but he isn't the reason Indiana is Indiana, other coaches have won championships at IU........and what happens if Crean wins 3? will we rename the renamed gym?
Bob congrats on being inducted but you Coach K, Dicky V, and Dakich can all have each other because this is ONE Bob knight fan that will not bow down to you anymore.....
Is that the way it went ?
The season is a week away I say lets move on to Rivers, Dumes, Pritchard, Jones, Watford/Elston ............
I've always said I don't watch or root for the coach when I watch basketball. With that being said, I do root for my favorite university's team and the coach is the only one who stays longer than 5 years (ok, Evan Eschmeyer, but other than that). The coach becomes the star in college and controversy creates attention and attention begats more stardom (see - Calipari, John). I laughed when Coach Knight threw the chair in '85, became concerned when he broke the telephone in '87, wondered what was going on when he head-butted Sherron Wilkerson and kicked Pat Knight (well, he kicked "the chair" by their accounts), and by the time he told Connie Chung (wasn't it) to "sit back and enjoy it," berated Jeremy Schapp, and whatever he did to Neil Reid, I was pretty much over it. I did not think he was above the law then and I feel the same way now. You just don't treat people that way.
We do not know what happens behind closed doors, and especially what happened during the Knight tenure, but no one deserves to have so many indescretions regardless of record. One could argue that the money and attention he brought to the university outweighs the rest. One could say that the "men" he made are his legacy. But, now he will be seen as the petulent child and bully he has made himself to be. He has become the grumpy old guy who gripes how the "good ol' days" were so much better, doesn't have the internet or other "new fangled" things, and is constantly yelling at people to get off his lawn.
Thanks Mr. Knight for your contributions to the university and the games your teams won and the joy you brought to the fans who enjoyed your tenure. I have become a huge fan of the teams that play at Assembly Hall because of you and I appreciate all the quality men who have come through your program. Your memory will be put into the Hall of Fame, and hopefully you will not do more to destroy whatever positive feelings the fans have of you.
I think it's a combination of them all really. But here's the deal, through all of the chair throwing, choking, cursing, Calbert Cheaney whipping, berating, (enter your own action verb here), who stood behind RMK? The FANS. The administration that dismissed him is gone. To this day he has a HUGE following in the IU nation.
What about the fans coach? When is it "OK" for them to welcome you back? They backed you when you embarrassed yourself and the program. They backed you when you were dismissed. And they are backing you now. What is the statute of limitations on this devotion? I am wondering if you will give back some Indiana love before it expires.
And Dick Vitale who is firmly camping out in your butt? He is nauseating. Who watches this guy? Everyone I know thinks he is terrible. Be careful who you are hanging with Coach.